George Galloway MP
That would be the transport that once upon a time was wholly controlled by Government bodies, so Galloway’s targets are the rail industry, and air traffic control. However, and here we encounter a significantly sized however, what has been sold off is not the whole of what was publicly owned, and in the case of Network Rail (NR) the company is now unequivocally back on the Government’s books.
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But NR is already in public ownership, most investment in the railways is done by NR, many fares are regulated - or controlled, if you like
What's your point? Are you happy that the rail companies remain in private hands? Is this a proper way to run a national rail service? Is there nothing to complain about regarding fare increses by these private companies? What?
My point is that Galloway has not done his homework.
I note that you make no mention of safety, which was his main point, and mine.
Selective dates. If you'd taken a date from 10 years after privatisation then you would have come up with a hugely higher number (80+). It was precisely this disastrous safety record that led to the u turn about the infrastructure being privatised. The government renationalised it because the private sector could not deliver a safe railway.
@3
Had I gone back to the ten years before the sell-offs, that would have included Clapham and several other rail accidents that included fatalities.
In fact, that too gives 80+ fatalities, or 85 to be precise.
@GrumpyOL
The government renationalised Network Rail last year because it had to due to an accounting issue which not only broke EU rules but affected UK Credit Ratings and exchange rates all over the world. In it's previous "not for profit" company status the debt was guaranteed by the state but not included in national debt figures. There was so much it could have affected the markets if properly declared.
And that previous "not for profit" Network Rail came about because Railtrack PLC went bust.
Both financially based decisions.
Railway Safety is actually managed and enforced mostly by government agencies such as RAIB and ORR (often with the help of Trade Union reps/ whistle blowers). If the senior managers of Network Rail were the last line in safety I wouldn't want to live near a railway never mind travel on it!
I note that you make no mention of safety, which was his main point
Not in the section which I was dealing with it wasn't, a section after which you yourself stated: "Perhaps he has another card to deploy?". So we were both well aware that it was not the safety issue being addressed there.
@6
And your point is?
Galloway still hasn't done his homework. Much of his wish list is already in place, although no doubt he would like to see cheaper fares - how that gets paid for is not told - and the banishment of private sector operators.
But ideological purity is never a good way to proceed, whether from a left or right wing perspective.
My point is that your response to his argument wasn't really the entirely convincing dismissal you may have hoped, because you were waving it away rather than addressing it. Incidentally, when you say "much of his wish list is already in place" - what's the meaning of "already" in that sentence?
@8
What's the meaning of "already"? What's the meaning of "meaning"? What's the meaning of "arguing the toss for the sheer hell of it"?
This is becoming pointless and will be treated accordingly.
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