Zelo Street described Vance as a moron, because he is a moron. This skill was on full view as the world’s media assembled to see just how much successful softening-up had been performed on Trump earlier in the week, only to discover that the answer to that one was None At All.
Worse, it was clear that the sole reason Zelenskyy had been invited to DC was to humiliate him in front of the assembled media representatives. The problem for Trump and Vance was that he declined to be humiliated, and instead remained in combative mood when confronted with the onslaught of weapons grade stupidity from two individuals more ridiculous than Laurel and Hardy, but without any of the talent, or, indeed, any of the laughs.
Kaitlin Collins of CNN noted “What just happened in the Oval Office was nothing short of remarkable. What began with questions about security guarantees for a ceasefire with Ukraine turned into an angry shouting match between Trump, Vance and Zelensky. Trump was fuming, ending with, ‘We have empowered you to be a tough guy…You either make a deal or we are out. You don’t have the cards.’” What deal would that have been?
Aaron Rupar had more from Trump: “Don't tell us what we're gonna feel. You're in no position to dictate that. You're in no position to dictate what we're gonna feel. We're gonna feel very good and very strong. You're right now not in a very good position. You're gambling with World War 3”.
Who was dictating to whom, though? Clearly, more sneering humiliation was needed to show the foreigner who was boss. And so it was that a deeply stupid questioner called Brian Glenn piped up “Why don’t you wear a suit?!? Do you own a suit?” Who is this Brian Glenn? As if you needed to ask.
It got worse: the Trump gang then asked the Ukraine delegation to leave the White House, a move which was briefed to Fox News Channel (fair and balanced my arse) as “kicked out”. At FNC, Bret Baier, formally one of their more sane pundits, suggested to Zelenskyy that he should apologise to Trump. But for what? A deliberate, crude and pointlessly stupid ambush?
Ron Filipkowski of Meidas Touch concluded “Trump and Vance needed to create an incident to provide a justification for their pre-planned abandonment of Ukraine now, then separation from NATO in the near future. That’s what that was all about, and that was always the way a second Trump term was going to go”. And the free world needs a new leader. Sharpish.
The USA is now in the hands of deeply stupid people. As in, more deeply stupid than any of their predecessors. Be afraid, people. Be very afraid.
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20 comments:
Someone else short of a suit?
This is where Starmer comes in....a useful letters delivery postie too.....
Trump gave the world a masterclass in how 'not' to conduct peace negotiations. A 'real' negotiator, does not choose sides. They do not hector one of the sides, nor do they openly insult them. Impartiality is the key. Alas, zelensky told the truth, that Putin cannot he trusted, and thus Trump leapt to his masters defence.
What followed was an exercise in bad faith, poor diplomatic skills, rudeness and idiocy. So, all the Orange Goblins trademarks. A fiasco that could only be defended by Trumps army of 'approved' journalists (what was that Vance was lecturing Europe over?) and of course, the MAGA moron army.
Who, to the shock of none, were indeed thrilled. "Trump owned Zelenskys ass" was the thousands strong response from those who don't like to tax their mental stamina too much. I wonder though, if the real message has sunk in, even to Starmer and Macrons dim brains? Donald Trump cannot be trusted. Not now, not ever.
Realpolitik says Zelensky is irrelevant. Always was, always will be.
The centuries old mass-homicidal "Great Game" goes on.
It was J.P.Morgan who said, "The working class? I can always hire one half to kill the other half." There are still enough suicidal mugs to fall for it too.
Can't trust any of them.
Merkel and co have since admitted the Minsk Agreement was a deception. And on their behalf Bozo's set task was to persuade Zelensky to tear it up anyway and continue the war.
None of them will be happy until the war is intensified, more bodies* strew the landscape, and World War 3 is threatened.
All of it was and is avoidable except to homicidal maniacs and their apologists.
*Not their own of course. Perish the thought.
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Go on, Anonymous Tankie. I know it's been an embarrassing 36 hours for you and I know he's the chum of your chum, but, just for me.
17:41.
Tsk tsk.... Long ago beat you to it me old warmonger Micawber. As usual.
Do try to keep up. But try not to trip over your own far right propaganda or other alter egos.
SPECIAL ZELO STREET SPRINGTIME QUIZ!
'The visit of the head of the neo-Nazi regime, V Zelenskyy, to Washington on 28 February is a complete political and diplomatic failure of the Kyiv regime. With his outrageously boorish behaviour during his stay in Washington, Zelenskyy confirmed that he is the most dangerous threat to the world community as an irresponsible warmonger. Russia’s unchanging goals remain the demilitarisation and denazification of Ukraine.'
Was the above statement made by:
1. Russian foreign ministry spokesperson, Maria Zakharova?
2. Donald Trump?
3. A regular contributor to a UK political blog hosted by Tim Fenton?
4. All of the above?
Answers in green and purple ink to:
B.Bertie,
17 Micawber Buildings,
Curtain-Twitchynge Lane,
Bow,
Babylon,
Inside the M25,
Airstrip One,
OCEANIA.
(In the interests of hygiene, please remove all traces of spittle, phlegm, gob, flob, saliva, expectorant and sputum before posting)
In fairness, rubio looked half dazed by the rantings of the two twats to his right.Almost as though his conscience was telling him he'd be best keeping his own counsel.
..Which is exactly what he did. But he made his bed, so fuck him as well.
Used to have little time for zelenskyy, but by Christ he's gone up a quintillion-fold in my estimation.
If only keef had the stones to front the beta-carotened blurt.
18:31.
Good grief. Failed your own test in the final paragraph there.
Tremendous imagery of you racing from "subversive" website to "subversive" website listing their "subversions" (© Stanley Kubrick/General Jack D. Ripper), then racing to the local police station with the list. But only after removing "all traces of spittle etc.."
Your latest unintentional comedy gold. A majestic own goal.
Nope. That is not the correct answer. ( But, thanks for, as your penultimate sentence implies you have, investing your time in following me and taking the time today to offer your feedback xx).
Rubio is actually a politician, repulsive though his choices are. Thus the two morons behaviour was doubtless as mega cringey for him as the rest of us.
As you say, Zelensky was never one of my favourite political actors, but compared to the orange Goblin and dumb dumb Vance he's positively loveable.
The big twist people have not grasped is that Bozo, heavily tied to the Russians, may well have scuppered peace talks in 2022 at the behest of Putin, given his stay in that Italian villa with a KGB agent.
AND he refused to wear a suit. The bastard.
Rather than ask Zelenskyy about his dress style, when said at the beginning of the Russian invasion he's wear the same military grab as the ordinary Ukrainians fighting for freedom, the idiot ex=Fox goose should have asked Trump why he wears orange pancake makeup and Vance why thge black eyeliner !
Europe is divided over Israel and Gaza, a few countries political parties disagreeing but the public generally opposing to Israel's actions; there is mass support for Ukraine, with the nations and their people and now...a great number of nations, with their populations and parliaments opposing Trump and Musk...should that be a sign that we see the US as a threat as well as Russia ?
22:24.
Never post after you have visited the ale house. Makes you look daft, quite apart from the Joe McCarthy mimes.
Tut tut.
09:53.
Starmer could have lent him one of his new suits.
Doubtless he has a rack of them courtesy of the Man In The Luxury Flat (for study only of course).
For the most part Trump is an idiot, and most of his policies will do nothing but harm to the US body politic (and economy, health, infrastructure, etc, etc). His treatment of Zelensky shows that he's is a vulgar yob, a nasty bully. However, he recognises something that Biden & Co and Europe cannot or will not recognise: Ukraine cannot defeat Russia unless there is a full-scale NATO-Russia confrontation -- and who really wants that? So the war has to be brought to an end, even if this means that Russia keeps a fifth of Ukraine's 1991 territory and is kept out of NATO.
What will Europe do? Trump is saying to Europe what other US Presidents thought but were too diplomatic to say: 'We're the big fish in the pond, you do as we say. We run NATO; if you want to be in it, you'll have to pay higher dues, and do what we say.' Will Europe really keep this war going when Washington wants it to stop? Will Europe really go it alone? Especially when it means a de facto war against Russia, with which the USA is trying to forge a deal. Trump sees Russia as potentially some sort of partner, or at least neutral, in the great game that is its campaign against its only real challenger, China.
I reckon that within a few weeks or months, Europe will make its peace with Trump, and all the brave words we're hearing at this afternoon's defence summit will be forgotten.
Never mind all that nonsense, Tim.
Did you know Starmer's dad was a toolmaker, and Starmer himself had no "emotional space" because once upon a time their phone was cut off. Just think how that information could have helped the tangerine spiv perceive the Downing Street barrow boy tenant.
Suits or no suits.
Depends on who you mean? The politicians are totally united over Gaza and Israel - they 100% support Israel. The public by contrast is indeed divided. On the one hand the right defend Israel on the basis that they aren't to keen on Muslims, while the liberal left aren't keen on white european settlers displacing yet another native population.
Unfortunately for the latter, history indicates that they aren't going to win this one. Just ask the few remaining native peoples in both Americas, Australia and New Zealand. Plus of course, the Zionist cause in Israel is backed by the Gawd squad, so money pours into their coffers to aid in ethnic cleansing.
The Ukraine is the opposite. The politicians are divided, with the 'strong men's leaders aiding with Russia, while the rest, realising the danger Putin poses, back, if a tad reluctantly, Ukraine. The public though, were pretty much behind Ukraine. The extreme left swallowed Putin and his apologists bullshit whole, but everyone else was happy to grit their teeth about Ukraines dodgy militias in the face of Russian aggression. As a certain personon here said, a good example of realpolitik - by the public.
Now, with Trump looking to shore up the US's flagging economy by looting the Ukraine of its mineral wealth, plus his desperation to win a nobel prize, driving so called 'peace talks', the far right and far left have come to each others arms over Ukraine's future. United at last by the self serving lies of two truly evil men.
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