Dead right there had been hate crime offences. Like the Maccabi Tel Aviv “fans” chanting “Death to Arabs … we will win, we will win, let the Israeli army win … fuck the Arabs … we will take your girls, who love to party … when we rape them, we will shout ‘today is death’ … you’re the whores of Arabs … we are ashamed of you … we will fuck you … and then drink your blood”.
In addition, let us not forget, to the physical violence meted out by said “fans”. Taking all of that to Birmingham, finding a few non-white taxi drivers to rough up, going looking for brown people to kick, it does not require much application of the grey matter to see why the decision was made.
But whoever was speaking for Starmer and his beleaguered Government, this was merely an excuse to claim it was all about WAAAAH WAAAH WAAAH ANTI-SEMITISM! BBC again: “‘No one should be stopped from watching a football game simply because of who they are,’ a government spokesperson said.” Meaning what? And, right on cue, Heeeeeeere’s Keir! Go on PM: “we will not tolerate antisemitism on our streets”. This is total crap.
But This Was The Word, and so it came to pass that new Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood declared “Antisemitism is a stain on our society that shames us all. Every football fan, whoever they are, should be able to watch their team in safety. This Government is doing everything in our power to ensure all fans can safely attend the game”. It’s not about anti-Semitism.
And who would like to, er, kick off for the assembled hackery? How about Michael “Oiky” Gove? “Jews not welcome in Birmingham: official”. Conflating Israelis and “all Jews” is an anti-Semitic trope, as per the IHRA definition. Who else would care to fall into this trap? Have a guess.
Yes, the Mail’s not even slightly celebrated blues artiste Whinging Dan Hodges, and his missing question marks: "The Maccabi Tel Aviv ban has become the acid test for this government. Are Jews going to be properly protected on the streets of Britain”. Conflating Israelis and “all Jews”. That’s real anti-Semitism. Well done Dan. Open mouth, insert boot.
And while Tim Shipman of the Murdoch Sunday Times, Kevin Schofield of the HuffPost, Jon Sopel of LBC, and Camillas Tominey and Long were valiantly attempting to toe the establishment line and gaslight the public, the pollsters at YouGov brought bad news: despite the “agree with what we say or you’re an anti-Semite” line, a majority of the public agreed with the ban.
By a majority of 42% to 28%, with Labour supporters registering a yet bigger margin of 47% to 22%. As Rivkah Brown put it, “Politicians and pundits can scream until they're blue in the face that Maccabi Tel Aviv fans are innocent victims of flagrant antisemitism, but the British public knows what's up”.
The public does indeed know. It’s an operational decision by those in and around Birmingham and Aston Villa. Once again, Starmer loses the room, and so do a worryingly high number of journalists. Do better, folks.
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38 comments:
Where's the beef?
Stürmer has said he's "a Zionist-without-qualification". Which makes him a racist, fascist, Israeli nationalist, land thieving, mass murdering, warmongering, lying, hypocritical, propaganda thug in a bought-and-paid-for suit. His cabinet gang support him, so they are the same even when they wear skirts. No difference whatsoever between them and the Blair/Brown gang.
No surprise, then, when he supports the thugs of Tel Aviv in the kickyball version of racist terrorism. He and his apologists are almost the bottom of the barrel in British culture. Only "almost" because they will get even worse before they are tossed out of office. Their only allocated task is to ready the political scene for the next layer of fascism.
This minor kickyball symptom is nothing to what lies ahead.
If a non-Jew called a Jew "a Yid" would that be antisemitic?
There's a football club whose supporters call themselves in public a "Yid army". Are they antisemitic?
Asking for a Protestant friend.
In fact that team (Spurs) are playing Aston Villa today. Villa and the Brum police seem to have made no attempt to ban Spurs fans.
Could this be that they are able, unlike Starmer, Mahmood, Cooper and the Great British Media, to tell the difference between English supporters of an English club which originated in an area of London with a sizeable Jewish population but has no particular reputation for football hooliganism, and supporters of an IDF-supporting club with a recent history of thuggery and provocative glorification of its nation's genocide when in a country whose Muslim population are not subjected to the apartheid segregation those supporters are used to seeing in Israel?
They've been banned from doing that, and any 'we are the yids' chants from Spurs fans are deemed offensive and those involved can be banned from the ground.
Apparently, saying you're a German Jew (which is all Yiddish means) is offensive when fellow jews and supporters of a club famous for its strong Jewish connections uses it.
I can understand totally when other fans use it to berate Spurs fans, if people take offence, but banning Spurs fans from using it shows how out of control things have become.
Oo... look who turned up as a supporter of Maccabi Tel Aviv:
https://ibb.co/gbj3xrjF
Just as the Tel Aviv kickyball derby got called off by the antisemitic Tel Aviv police. Due to fans violence.
That hapless gett Starmer can't say anything without it immediately biting his arse. His excuses this time will be priceless.
Tel Aviv derby called off by police after 'violent riots' • https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgr4n07509wo
As ever, the BBC toes the line - 'the decision led to widespread criticism'. From whom? Why? Oh yes, a decision to ban away fans (alas a fairly regular feature of continental and international matches these days) was deemed to be 'antisemitic ' by, at first Badenough, then everyone else jumped on board to burnish their 'war on antisemitism' credentials.
I mean sod safety, sod the bill for policing, playing politics with football matches is far more important.
Interestingly, the public, far more used to the actual consequences of football violence than right wing politicos and talking heads, had their say - 48% of people thought the ban was correct, only 28% thought it was wrong. That 28% doubtless have never been faced with football thuggery...
The Spurs/Villa match was at White Hart Lane (as Alf and I continue to call it down at the old Bull and Bush) and not at Villa Park as I assumed.
My Bad as the young people probably no longer say.
How odd...... the Starmer government hastens legislation to allow religious thugs to attend a football match..... but not legislation to withdraw titles awarded to a "prince" with a "friendship" with the convicted leader of an international paedophile ring.
What has Israel got on Starmer ?
The more he gives into them, the more suspicions will grow that they are blackmailling him.
No need for blackmail. How about a Jewish wife and a conventional, blinkered and outdated idea about victimhood; as if the last 70 years had never happened?
Yep - anyone who had to endure pissed Newcastle supporters on the trains out of London after they'd lost will know about that.
If anything, expect the usual quivering shithouse Starmer statement now this issue has blown up in his face.
Or will he show up at the match in the company of Farage and Lennon. You know, to show "balance". The utter, utter cowardly Zionist gobshite.
Yaxley-Lennon may not find it as easy to get a ticket to the Villa Park game as he thought on account of Maccabi reportedly declining their away ticket allocation: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11959/13454159/aston-villa-vs-maccabi-tel-aviv-israeli-club-to-decline-away-ticket-allocation-for-europa-league-fixture
That, and Israel buys lots of lovely weapons from the UK to use in said 70 year long persecution of the former citizens of the land they now occupy.
Oops! That'll set off alarms at 'anti-Semite' police HQ..
Would be interesting to see what happens if a large number in the crowd take Action by waving Palestine flags. As many did at Celtic. Or is that also terrorism in Brave New Britain?
Has the Downing Street Zionist Fascist regime made its excuses yet?
Or is Stürmer still cowering behind a minder thug, as he did when confronted by 70 years old Audrey White.
What a gutless gang of genocide-enablers they and their apologists are. They shame Britain. They deserve their looming political oblivion.
The funniest part of the whole farrago was that the government kept objecting to the decision, and insisting that they were working 'at pace' to overturn it (Starmer with his sleeves rolled up, as per usual), except that *they had no power to do so*. And every emerging piece of evidence of Maccabi Tel Aviv's hooligan element made Starmer (along with Badenoch, Farage, Davey and most of the media) look even more stupid.
Has Starmer "contributed" anything more to the "issue"?
Or is he too busy with fellow Essex spiv Streeting selling the NHS to his future employers in profits-gouging "health"care in the USA?
Except, it didn't - according to the press. The pro Israeli mob are still pushing the 'antisemite' line, and even the biggest companies are falling in line. The latest is British Airways withdrawal of sponsorship from Louis Theroux's podcast for the crime of interviewing Bob Vylan.
Interviewing death row killers, no problem. Interviewing religious fanatics, all good. But interview someone who said death to the perpetrators of Genocide, to those who rape women and butcher children, oh no!
This whole affair was probably the most bizarre in post war politics. A govt and opposition united in trying to force an English football club to accept fans with a reputation for violence and taste for ugly racism, into their stadium.
The question arises once more? What does Israel have on everyone?
The only thing Israel "has" is its location. It's useful to keep the region in turmoil and disunited. In turn this enables Western control of oil. Israel is allowed to act as it does purely to suit the West. Sure, there's probably some relatively minor blackmail and corruption going on, the usual both-sides tedious spookery. But make no mistake the overall strategy is controlled by the West. The psychopath Netanyahu (he could be swatted tomorrow) merely takes advantage where he can.
Apart from the continuing misplaced (anachronistic?) Western guilt for centuries of persecuting Jews, culminating in the Holocaust, and apart from being 'the only functioning democracy(sic) in the Middle East', and apart from being the beneficiaries of Western anti-Arab and anti-Muslim prejudice, and apart from having co-religionists in influential positions in many powerful countries, and apart from being keen customers for the military hardware sold to them by many Western states, and apart from themselves being world leaders in the development and sale of all the sophisticated technological solutions required by any modern state intent on the surveillance and oppression of their populations (with 40 years of real world testing and refinement), apart from all that, nothing much really.
One of the most inane sentences ever written.
True. But all of the above applied in the past, and indeed created enough leverage to allow them to get away with, well, murder.
It doesn't explain though, the current total indifference to Gaza, and the whole, encouragement to 'get it over with' and simply push the Palestinians to the brink of total collapse.
In the past there has always been 'some' push back, now there is none. Politicians are either fully in support of Israel's actions, or offering the most tame condemnation.
The only conclusion I can think of, is that democracy has failed so utterly, politicians so disinterested in what the electorate actually wants or thinks, and politicians are now so totally bent, that the Plight of the Gazans is seen as irrelevant in the grand scheme of lining their own pockets for five years.
In many ways, that's even worse than people dying in droves due to bigotry and geo politics...
The women transfer market is hot these days following the Phillips move to Brighton. The Reeves loan move looks dicey too with the fee in question. Looks like the move to Maccabi is on hold until the furore dies down, Keef. What's the latest controversial news from the latest controversial dressing room in the latest controversially-funded famously atmospheric stadium housing controversially-fierce fans?
Why not try answering the question Mark, taken in the current context rather than just indulging yourself in a quick put down? Yes?
It is, given the way the situation has drastically changed from sporadic attempts at peace treaties, not just to end current conflict, but the major issues, and govts at least condemning and doing something (no matter how little), to not just doing nothing, but actively assisting Israels push to drive the Palestinians into the history books and out of Gaza, a reasonable point.
Hence why people are asking that question.
Anonymous @ 10.45
( I did have to smile at the thought of Mark checking in to see whether his latest bitchy bit of Bertie monomania had appeared, then seeing 'True' in your post immediately after his, gleefully concluding that he had found a new chum, and then slowly (very slowly) realising his mistake.)
Anyway, to the point.
Hasn't Israel's policy been much the same for decades, though? The difference now is that what was, in the past implicit, is now completely out in the open. Israel wants even more land and it wants the Palestinians to 'disappear' (having for decades argued, in any case, that they don't, as a 'nation', actually exist). The species of racist bastards who control Netanyahu and his government have no objection to a Final Solution for the Palestinians and continue to openly argue for it.
Internationally? Trump and his family see Gaza as a real estate opportunity and Trump's base see the 'Holy Land' as simply a huge film set readying itself for the Second Coming.
Starmer? Awaiting orders, Sir. Germany? Compromised since the 40s because of their ''accomodation' with the Jewish homeland. The Arab world? No wish to be further embarrassed by the Palestine Question. The UN? Impotent.
The other thing that has been demonstrated by Trump and others is that if you call the bluff of the 'great national and international institutions' and simply ignore them, you can get away with anything. 'Checks and balances' and international law count for nothing if you choose simply to disregard them. Especially if those who should be defending those things are nowhere to be seen.
In its openness, I see Israel's barbarity as being of a piece with Trump's brazen attempt to steal the 2020 election, his subsequent thuggish storming of the White House and his current trashing of his country and its institutions. And I expect that Israel and its war criminals will ultimately suffer the same consequences as Trump: ie none.
What's scary is that it seems that we’re all getting used to it.
New player available on a free transfer, at what I am reliably informed is "right wing back": Andrew von Battenberg von Mountbatten von Windsor von Saxe-Coburg und Gotham. Pay negotiable. Maccabi - anyone in fact - welcome to enquire.
The last sentence, is probably the most important Bertie. While yes, there is still a large amount of anger about the treatment of the Palestinians, even in the face of ever more extreme crackdowns on supporters of the Palestinian cause, apathy amongst the bulk of the public is creeping in.
Not just about Palestine either. Trumps destruction of democracy in the USA, the brutalizing of immigrants by maga thugs in fancy combat gear, the rise of the far right in the uk and across Europe is not getting the kick back it should be, and would have in days of yore.
This is largely because of timing. The World since 2008, had become highly unstable. The rich admitted back then, they were concerned over justified anger at their behaviour. This has lead to a (its suspected, literal) bunker mentality.
With the wealthy this manifested as even more ruthless and rapacious greed, endless propaganda for their cause (low taxes, deregulation, climate change denial) and shocking gouging.
The latter in turn has meant a cost of living crisis blotting out all other concerns. Exactly as planned.
BBBBBB translation: "Israel is very bad and here's a lot of windbaggery."
I will not answer questions of people choosing to be anonymous on the Internet
Really? Or is it you just don't have any answers, as you managed to respond first time out...
You think THAT's bad?....... Wait until you get a load of THIS....
https://soundcloud.com/laurencefoxmusic/c-h-a-r-l-i-e
Aston Villa 2 – 0 Maccabi Tel Aviv
Brummie Bashers FC 2, Mass Murder Baby Killers IDF FC 0.
And in cycling news:
'Israel-Premier Tech’s main sponsor withdraws backing citing ‘untenable’ position
Premier Tech pulls out despite rebranding pledge
Team’s participation in Vuelta was dogged by protests'
Bien hecho, Ibericos!
Yet the match was still overshadowed by idiot marchers with banners saying 'no to antisemitism in football'.
When people are that stupid, there really is no reasoning with them...
Great thing about time is t will always prove you wrong
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