tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post8224606197342938177..comments2024-03-26T13:27:26.499+00:00Comments on Zelo Street: Syria Strikes Change NothingTim Fentonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00726447899972084146noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-28131575035105192862018-04-18T13:33:32.202+01:002018-04-18T13:33:32.202+01:00The choice isn't just between "interferin...The choice isn't just between "interfering in other people's lives" and doing nothing: as permanent members of the UNSC, the USA and UK and France have a duty to seek to de-escalate crises such as these. In 2013 they chose not to de-escalate, and instead chose to the arm the Opposition. It was claimed then that this would "stop the bodies piling up" because Assad's regime was just about to fall because the military were about to abandon him, so arming the Opposition would shorten the war. This proved to be nonsense and has in fact fuelled the conflict. <br /><br />There is nothing to stop the USA and UK and France from seeking to de-escalate the war now, though it will be more difficult than it would have been in 2013. That option appears not to be even considered even though, in my view, it is one of the duties of permanent members of the UNSC. <br /><br /><br /><br />GuanoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-7260083952755370292018-04-16T16:36:05.175+01:002018-04-16T16:36:05.175+01:00Tim,
You miss the point by several country miles....Tim,<br /><br />You miss the point by several country miles. It isn't a question of attacking Higgins. It's a matter of analysing available evidence, including Higgins's opinions. <br /><br />That article proves nothing of Who Did It. The weapons identified could have been used by both sides and could have been bought through any unscrupulous international arms dealer of whom there are many. In a civil war, including this one and especially at the date of that article, territory often overlaps and can be used by either side to launch attacks: The fog of war.<br /><br />I have no doubt whatever of war crimes and atrocities. They are committed by all sides in all wars. Hence I have no doubt Assad's forces are guilty of them. But so are the other side - even the Telegraph article concedes that. Given the increasing desperation of the anti-Assad forces, who is to say they didn't stage the current unverified attack as a last desperate measure to entangle help? I'm not saying they did, just that it's entirely possible in the awful mess that is a civil war. A war which, I am willing to bet, the West bears a very large responsibility for instigating - the West has form for such right across the globe.<br /><br />Meantime, I'll wait for conclusive evidence. British mainstream media has already taken to disgraceful jingoist inflammation of the situation. If Assad's forces are indeed guilty then haul the guilty parties before the International Court. But if that happens, the court is duty bound to do the same for ANY other perpetrators in the conflict. That includes Western "special forces" who might have committed such - they are, after all, trained for just such an eventuality, including shooting prisoners.<br /><br />And yes, I've read the Telegraph article. Twice. It describes nothing but the terrible tragedy and horror we already knew existed. And which will continue until the West stops interfering in other people's lives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-71151524311233663862018-04-16T15:29:06.442+01:002018-04-16T15:29:06.442+01:00I doubt there were any other ‘sites’ even consider...I doubt there were any other ‘sites’ even considered <br />Claims that the Syrians, courtesy of the Russians, knew the co-ordinates prior to the action. Probably explains the delay on the part of the US while the two big boys sorted it out.<br />100+ missiles and only 3, as yet reported casualties. Not a single camel killed during a well choreographed piece of theatre…or pantomime if you prefer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-91427269432797242822018-04-16T15:11:09.896+01:002018-04-16T15:11:09.896+01:00@4
If you want to talk crap about what Eliot Higg...@4<br /><br />If you want to talk crap about what Eliot Higgins does, take it elsewhere.<br /><br />He already has produced plenty of evidential standard investigation - sample article here:<br /><br />https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10730163/The-blogger-who-tracks-Syrian-rockets-from-his-sofa.html<br /><br />Away with you.<br />Tim Fentonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00726447899972084146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-64607773376530400222018-04-16T15:01:50.875+01:002018-04-16T15:01:50.875+01:00I don't see why it took over 100 cruise missil...I don't see why it took over 100 cruise missiles etc to trash three buildings. Unless of course many were shot down as Syria claims Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-89013164802907432272018-04-16T14:29:47.297+01:002018-04-16T14:29:47.297+01:00The OPCW records only the presence of chemicals. I...The OPCW records only the presence of chemicals. Its brief is to analyse. <br /><br />Nobody has yet PROVED the allegations of who is to blame. Given Western lies about weapons of mass destruction, who is to say the same mentality wouldn't stage this horror?<br /><br />Higgins makes allegations, nothing more. He wouldn't get through the door as witness in a democratic court.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-39773045810452824702018-04-16T13:39:48.432+01:002018-04-16T13:39:48.432+01:00@2
If you want to regard Tom Duggan as a credible...@2<br /><br />If you want to regard Tom Duggan as a credible source, then don't look in here.<br /><br />This blog only deals in reality. That's why it links to sources like Eliot Higgins and Bellingcat.<br /><br />And sort your punctuation out.<br />Tim Fentonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00726447899972084146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-65752647365264978202018-04-16T12:54:22.659+01:002018-04-16T12:54:22.659+01:00The reports from Tom Duggan paint a very different...The reports from Tom Duggan paint a very different picture to your's, so I guess it comes down to what you want to believe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-15682048026778188012018-04-16T12:40:09.570+01:002018-04-16T12:40:09.570+01:00I get cynical about politics when allegations fly ...I get cynical about politics when allegations fly everywhere and there's no evidence of Who Did It.<br /><br />Allegations are as cheap and easy as C4 "News" Frei asking a retired Russian general if he believed in the moon landings. Which made Frei look more of a cunt than the Russki.<br /><br />The latest missile strikes are lethal bullshit of the worst type. Sickening even by the "standards" of violence crazed USA and their two Euro trollops.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com