tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post6533369225897592188..comments2024-03-26T13:27:26.499+00:00Comments on Zelo Street: Keir Starmer - Deliver Or DepartTim Fentonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00726447899972084146noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-25359969468405239352021-11-15T14:24:33.996+00:002021-11-15T14:24:33.996+00:00Since then:
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/2535...Since then:<br />https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/25353/keir_starmer/holborn_and_st_pancras/divisions?policy=975Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-74920586461347095162021-11-14T17:06:18.509+00:002021-11-14T17:06:18.509+00:00These public statements seem to be not good enough...These public statements seem to be not good enough for Anon: -<br />'Sorry, Mr Blair, but 1441 does not authorise force' - Keir Starmer, The Guardian, 17 Mar 2003.<br />'Airstrikes in Syria are lawful, but I’ll be voting against them' - Keir Starmer, The Guardian, 30 Nov 2015.<br />'Chilcot’s lessons on going to war must be enshrined in law' - Keir Starmer, The Guardian, 6 Jul 2016.<br /><br />From today's posting from Tim: 'Whatever: good Tory activists, Councillors, AMs and yes, MPs, will continue to keep schtum, while the Labour Party, often very publicly, will continue with left and centre beating up on each other in no style at all.'<br /><br />Anon - Doing what the Mogg the Weak and Michael Puker channels do on YouTube.Graham's Concrete Junglenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-71212475891758779972021-11-14T11:04:45.177+00:002021-11-14T11:04:45.177+00:00@20:49.
None of it stopped the Starmer Gang from ...@20:49.<br /><br />None of it stopped the Starmer Gang from stabbing Jeremy Corbyn in the back. Which is to be expected from a mob of red tory soap opera Quislings. They'll get worse too. All to feather their own political nests. Starmer is merely the latest greasy version.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-15528929031057617112021-11-14T10:44:47.128+00:002021-11-14T10:44:47.128+00:00@20:49.
Yet more weasel words from a pro-war red ...@20:49.<br /><br />Yet more weasel words from a pro-war red tory Bliarite.<br /><br />Jeremy Corbyn unequivocally condemned the Iraq war...which Bliar led Britain into - as a Yank poodle.<br /><br />Wilful ignorance on your part. Exactly the kind of insanity that causes hundreds of thousands of innocents their their lives, community and even costs millions their country.<br /><br />Small wonder this country has become the sick man of the world, its "leaders" nothing but thieves, liars and mas-murderers irrespective of political party - at the present rate the current gang threatening even worse "possibilities".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-24907211434231276642021-11-13T20:49:27.927+00:002021-11-13T20:49:27.927+00:00Anon @18:30
Pure speculation by The Independent th...Anon @18:30<br />Pure speculation by The Independent that came to nothing.<br />Anon @19:50<br />It pays to read the article. Nothing in Corbyn's statement about Blair. In fact, the article points out that Corbyn failed to name the former Labour Party Leader.<br /><br />The shit from Anon on this thread is normally found on anti-Labour Party YouTube channels and blogs from basement dwellers.Graham's Concrete Junglenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-30247174777591358892021-11-13T19:50:24.366+00:002021-11-13T19:50:24.366+00:00Oh yeah?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/vi...Oh yeah? <br /><br />https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2016/jul/06/jeremy-corbyn-apologises-for-iraq-war-on-behalf-of-the-labour-party-videoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-44904927902857392812021-11-13T18:30:54.824+00:002021-11-13T18:30:54.824+00:00@14:57.
The only liar here is you.
https://www.i...@14:57.<br /><br />The only liar here is you.<br /><br />https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-still-prepared-to-call-for-war-crimes-investigation-into-tony-blair-a7042926.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-58607898051943419932021-11-13T14:57:27.524+00:002021-11-13T14:57:27.524+00:00Anonymous @times numerous
Corbyn didn't stick ...Anonymous @times numerous<br />Corbyn didn't stick the knife in Blair's back so, you're blaming Starmer and lying through your teeth.Graham's Concrete Junglenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-69111694311309553562021-11-13T11:44:38.579+00:002021-11-13T11:44:38.579+00:00Given Starmer's action against a former leader...Given Starmer's action against a former leader and other members it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect him to act against a former leader guilty of the most heinous crimes in this century thus far.<br /><br />As a lawyer Starmer will know that's what the International Court in The Hague is also for....<br />...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-19910105077437870442021-11-13T11:18:18.908+00:002021-11-13T11:18:18.908+00:00The murderous war criminal actions of other Labour...The murderous war criminal actions of other Labour leaders that Labour "leader" Starmer now fails to acknowledge let alone apologise for.<br /><br />The same Starmer who looks and sounds like a second hand car salesman. As do his apologists. <br /><br />The same Starmer who supports "without qualification" the Zionism which oppresses and murders the Palestinian people.<br /><br />The same Starmer whose "opposition" to a government of thieving scoundrels was non-existent until even corporate media couldn't ignore the corruption. After which, he fell in line with the Daily Heil... to the surprise of nobody.<br /><br />Starmer is, and always will be, a right wing political weasel of the type who reduced Labour to the level of tenth rate tories.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-67982544746343489842021-11-12T10:32:53.027+00:002021-11-12T10:32:53.027+00:00@22:27
In keeping with your demand that people apo...@22:27<br />In keeping with your demand that people apologise for the actions of others, I beg forgiveness for the posts on this thread from Anonymous.Graham's Concrete Junglenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-31654863066304817992021-11-11T22:27:32.710+00:002021-11-11T22:27:32.710+00:00Before De Klerk died he "apologised without q...Before De Klerk died he "apologised without qualification" for the apartheid era in South Africa.<br /><br />So here's an opportunity for Starmer to do the same for Blair's illegal mass-murdering wars, lies and "support whatever" for war criminal Bush.<br /><br />After all, he has stated support "without qualification" for the Israeli apartheid of Zionism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-63181414267549092602021-11-10T21:54:09.107+00:002021-11-10T21:54:09.107+00:00@17:27
WRONG. That was NOT the EDM. You have quote...@17:27<br />WRONG. That was NOT the EDM. You have quoted something totally different that was said during 'Business of the House' on Thursday 9th June 2016. Months before the EDM.<br /><br />The EDM motion from Alex Salmond MP was debated and voted on 30th November 2016.<br />Jeremy Corbyn was Leader of the Opposition at that time and all Labour MPs were subject to a One Line Whip to vote 'NO'. 5 Labour MPs defied the Whip and voted 'AYE'.Graham's Concrete Junglenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-17437689782641281542021-11-10T17:27:33.387+00:002021-11-10T17:27:33.387+00:00To 16:06.
Tsk tsk. More of your weasel words. App...To 16:06.<br /><br />Tsk tsk. More of your weasel words. Appropriate for the Starmer Gang.<br /><br />Here's the full text of the EDM:<br /><i>"That this House congratulates the BBC for a vivid and restrained account of the suffering of the loved ones of the British soldier Tom Keys who was killed in the Iraq War caused, in his father's opinion, by the lie of the threat from non-existent weapons of mass destruction; looks forward to the publication of the Chilcot Inquiry Report, but is concerned that attempts may be made to invent a fictionalised history of the reasons for the UK's involvement in the second Iraq War; and recalls a letter sent to Tony Blair by the hon. Member for Newport West in March 2003 which warned that the world would be a more dangerous place at the end of hostilities in Iraq than it was before, and that the UK's involvement in President Bush's Iraq War would deepen the sense of grievance among Muslims that the Western and Christian world seeks to oppress them and that this would provide a propaganda victory to Osama bin Laden that would increase his support and the likelihood of more acts of terrorism."</i><br /><br />The truth always hurts liars, particularly the warmongering mass-murdering type.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-36256854019658911872021-11-10T16:06:00.020+00:002021-11-10T16:06:00.020+00:00@15:02
No, that makes you look daft.
That was not ...@15:02<br />No, that makes you look daft.<br />That was not a vote against an inquiry into the Iraq War. That was a shit-stirring exercise by Alex Salmond.<br />Starmer voted NO to Alex Salmond's Early Day Motion and so did most Labour MPs. 5 Labour MPs were in favour, 158 against.<br />Total - Ayes 69, Noes 438.Graham's Concrete Junglenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-6636583707465052232021-11-10T15:02:50.540+00:002021-11-10T15:02:50.540+00:00To 09:58.
Tsk tsk.
This makes you look a bit da...To 09:58.<br /><br />Tsk tsk. <br /><br />This makes you look a bit daft:<br />https://www.theyworkforyou.com/divisions/pw-2016-11-30-99-commons/mp/25353<br /><br />Thank me later.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-87611809611144889082021-11-10T14:35:18.975+00:002021-11-10T14:35:18.975+00:00Keep going, son.
We'll make you an honorary F...Keep going, son.<br /><br />We'll make you an honorary Fellow.Joe McCarthy Memorial Society.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-31682502600623750772021-11-10T14:32:09.730+00:002021-11-10T14:32:09.730+00:00@09:58.
You're really shit at facts.
For fac...@09:58.<br /><br />You're really shit at facts.<br /><br />For facts, see 11:00.<br /><br />But you're good at weasely evasion on the issue. As are Blair, Brown, Mandelson, Campbell and co. And Starmer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-79942426494794134462021-11-10T13:02:09.840+00:002021-11-10T13:02:09.840+00:00@Anon 21:31
The investigation into events leading ...@Anon 21:31<br />The investigation into events leading to the Iraq War (Chilcot Inquiry) began in 2009, six years before Keir Starmer became an MP.<br />If you're referring to Alex Salmond's witch hunt, that was chucked out by a majority vote.RAS Putin Academy of Englishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-58455763764507553282021-11-10T11:00:15.006+00:002021-11-10T11:00:15.006+00:00@21:28.
https://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpn=...@21:28.<br /><br />https://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpn=Keir_Starmer&mpc=Holborn_and_St_Pancras&house=commons&dmp=975&display=motionsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-33341547528741684232021-11-10T09:58:56.104+00:002021-11-10T09:58:56.104+00:00@21:31
You're really shit at lying.
Gordon Bro...@21:31<br />You're really shit at lying.<br />Gordon Brown launched the Chilcot Inquiry into the Iraq War in 2009, 6 years before Keir Starmer became an MP.<br />'Chilcot’s lessons on going to war must be enshrined in law' - Keir Starmer, The Guardian, 6 Jul 2016.Graham's Concrete Junglenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-16989566386732782492021-11-09T21:31:00.094+00:002021-11-09T21:31:00.094+00:00Graham's Concrete Jungle 12:54.
Starmer also ...Graham's Concrete Jungle 12:54.<br /><br />Starmer also voted against an inquiry into the Iraq war.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-72439809627113538562021-11-09T21:28:39.967+00:002021-11-09T21:28:39.967+00:00@15:38
List Starmer's recent views on war that...@15:38<br />List Starmer's recent views on war that now place him as an ally in Blair's foreign policies.Graham's Concrete Junglenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-90258437122939961912021-11-09T15:38:30.605+00:002021-11-09T15:38:30.605+00:00To 12:54.
So what?
That was 18 and 6 years ago.
...To 12:54.<br /><br />So what?<br /><br />That was 18 and 6 years ago.<br /><br />His behaviour since contradicts that. Makes it look like he was merely positioning himself for political convenience, a standard ploy of Labour righties on the make - Bliar for instance.<br /><br />I wouldn't trust the Starmer mentality to hold a door open. The fellow is an utterly greasy conman, something which will become even more obvious in the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-7881923531542156252021-11-09T12:54:30.693+00:002021-11-09T12:54:30.693+00:00@Dubya Bush Institute of Integrity
War ally? FFS
&...@Dubya Bush Institute of Integrity<br />War ally? FFS<br />'Sorry, Mr Blair, but 1441 does not authorise force' - Keir Starmer, The Guardian, 17 Mar 2003.<br />'Airstrikes in Syria are lawful, but I’ll be voting against them' - Keir Starmer, The Guardian, 30 Nov 2015.Graham's Concrete Junglenoreply@blogger.com