tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post5275843247087266505..comments2024-03-26T13:27:26.499+00:00Comments on Zelo Street: Boris Admits Vote Leave LiedTim Fentonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00726447899972084146noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-31571813133540497132016-06-30T10:56:13.669+01:002016-06-30T10:56:13.669+01:00@ rob
You might say Boris was a useful opportunis...@ rob<br /><br />You might say Boris was a useful opportunistic gullible "tool" for the leave camp to garner support and fairly easy to dump afterwards. Boris having no principled reason to be on either side was suckered in.<br /><br />Well, you might say that I couldn't possibly comment. Oh! I have.............robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-56418155031512993472016-06-30T10:12:38.152+01:002016-06-30T10:12:38.152+01:00@ rob
Good spot rob. Now see KRM "unfortunat...@ rob<br /><br />Good spot rob. Now see KRM "unfortunately" has to ditch Boris, because of his "baggage", and back Gove. Plotters don't exist entirely on the left side of the political spectrum.robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-85213694368822273612016-06-29T09:38:30.322+01:002016-06-29T09:38:30.322+01:00There is yet to be a deal brokered on the future r...There is yet to be a deal brokered on the future relationship with the EU. Any speculation on how that will take shape is just that: speculation. Scaremongering of this scale will certainly not help Britain securing the right deal which should be mutually beneficial to both parties. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01512084999544297494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-91685858957969036462016-06-28T17:49:15.547+01:002016-06-28T17:49:15.547+01:00Surprised he isn't trying to court UKIP......
...Surprised he isn't trying to court UKIP......<br />If UKIP had any sense they'd tell Murdy and Staines where to go.<br />Sadly, too many hang on to Staines and it doesn't help politicians in a professional sense.<br />He'll do it to them one day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-82013535792720971032016-06-28T12:33:27.523+01:002016-06-28T12:33:27.523+01:00Could Johnson actually be the perfect fall guy for...Could Johnson actually be the perfect fall guy for Gove I wonder?<br /><br />The perfect guy to lead the campaign for leave and then the perfect can carrier in the aftermath. Didn't Gove have plenty of luches with Murdoch long before Johnson entered the Murdoch frame.<br /><br />And it now "seems" as if Murdoch is backtracking on Johnson and promoting Gove as being a good leader? robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-83874312314884089322016-06-28T07:29:02.578+01:002016-06-28T07:29:02.578+01:00The Indy ref voted in favour not to do that.
Sturg...The Indy ref voted in favour not to do that.<br />Sturgeon has a big worry at present.<br /><br />UKIP need to take full advantage of this situation.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-62502016582927619222016-06-27T20:53:59.717+01:002016-06-27T20:53:59.717+01:00Boris talks ****.
However, I'm not convinced w...Boris talks ****.<br />However, I'm not convinced we're leaving yet. There's a long way to go in this fiasco.Shawlratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-15921396403367002302016-06-27T18:35:33.811+01:002016-06-27T18:35:33.811+01:00In addition to his ridiculous fantasies in the Tel...In addition to his ridiculous fantasies in the Telegraph, Johnson (I think it is incumbent upon us all to not play along with his chummy 'Bozza' act) couldn't be arsed to turn up in Parliament today...Rivohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12862803953863889027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-59378724817813566402016-06-27T16:01:50.709+01:002016-06-27T16:01:50.709+01:00"Bozza is away with the fairies when he muses..."Bozza is away with the fairies when he muses “We had one Scotland referendum in 2014, and I do not detect any real appetite to have another one soon""<br />We've just had one. England and Wales voted to break up the UK.Arnoldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-27425786997103536272016-06-27T12:49:32.163+01:002016-06-27T12:49:32.163+01:00Tim,
A useful link to the opinion of a principled...Tim,<br /><br />A useful link to the opinion of a principled man:<br />http://johnpilger.com/articles/why-the-british-said-no-to-europe<br /><br />If only we had more like him......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-20304108538594895632016-06-27T11:56:11.991+01:002016-06-27T11:56:11.991+01:00Johnson is merely a symptom of the corruption of c...Johnson is merely a symptom of the corruption of civilised life by the so-called "globalists," "entrepreneurs" and "risk takers." <br /><br />In British public life he's a convenient but temporary front man, just as Thatcher was a front woman. Neither of them ever had a constructive idea in their disgusting lives. He's done his primary job now: to get revenge on Cameron. Just as Blair's job was to destabilise the Labour Party and underpin more US-led invasions and mass murders.<br /><br />I doubt if even neocons would be collectively moronic enough to place such a dangerous buffoon in Downing Street. If they do, it will herald the next step down to a neofascist future, something that would become obvious to even the most benighted inhabitant of the M25 ghetto. But you wouldn't bet against it because this country has been taking gradual steps down that road since 1979. The ratchet has been tightened ever since.<br /><br />But there is no surprise in this for me. The tories are what they have always been and always will be. They are an anathema to decent society. Anybody who votes for them deserves what they get: a broken society and politics of the sewer.<br /><br />Nor should there be any misunderstanding of the crucial part played by New Labour in this horror. They are just as culpable as the tories. It is THEY, led by Blair, who have managed to temporarily sabotage the Labour Party and its founding principles. You need only view that utterly corrupt, cowardly mouthpiece Benn and his speech that had the Commons behaving as though it was the Reichstag under Hitler - if you think this far fetched, watch the grainy old black and white footage. Then compare it to a recording of Benn making his completely unprincipled pitch for the leadership on the backs of mass murder in the Arab Peninsula. That's New Labour and its apologists in essence. Every bit as rotten as the tories.<br /><br />This country now faces disintegration, with a very real risk of becoming a racist island people riddled with xenophobic paranoia. In that respect we resemble the horror that is the "United" States of America.<br /><br />These are dreadfully dangerous times. Because of it, the oligarch criminals and crooks who run Western countries now threaten to ease the pressure by a war with Russia and China, both of whom have demonstrated independence - precisely the same tactics deployed during the Cold War against the old alliance of non-aligned states. They will leave nobody alone while there are resources to be looted.<br /><br />By comparison to all of this Johnson is a mere bagatelle of stupidity, a clown of no substance, a tenth rate public school spiv who has nothing but contempt for democracy. If this country is crazy enough to put him in place as prime minister it will tell you all you need to know of future horrors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-79946890884408481702016-06-27T10:41:26.880+01:002016-06-27T10:41:26.880+01:00If we are in the EEA, and make payments... will we...If we are in the EEA, and make payments... will we get any of that back in funding and grants as we do at the moment? <br /><br />Or will it mean we pay in to allow the city of london to still trade in the EU and allow "services" (which requires being part of the EEA and not a bog-standard trade deal) into the EU, but get none of the area grants back, none of the CAP grants to farmers, none of the regeneration grants back?<br /><br />So if we can't actually impose restrictions on movement (because we have to be in the EEA to keep the banks here, and provide services to the EU)...<br />if we still have to pay for access to the EEA (because banks again, a huge part of our GDP)...<br />if we no longer get a rebate (so we end up paying more)...<br />if we still have to apply all the rules and regulations (because to keep selling to the EU we have to follow all the boring "CE" stuff), even if they are no longer "laws" as such...<br />if we lose grants, but still have to follow the rules about fishing to be part of the EEA...<br /><br />Well, if thats the case then a huge number of brexshitters are in for one very rude awakening when nothing changes except we end up paying more for less from the EU.<br />Obviously we could always not be part of the EEA, but then we lose our banking industry and our services industry which together make up a huge part of our GDP and government tax take (even if they do avoid/evade huge amounts where possible) which would probably mean an increase in VAT by about 3-8% points and large increases in income tax at the bottom (with increase in allowances at the top so it doesn't hit the high paid) and probably increases on "low vat" areas such as electricty and gas and large increases in petrol duty.<br /><br />Its a wonderful sight to behold brexshitters get told that holidays will be more expensive, that travel insurance costs will shoot up, that roaming charges will no longer be capped if we are outside of the EU, that pensions increases will no longer have to be honoured for EU resident pensioners, and, and, and... Well they were told not to listen the experts and only listen to the Daily Hate Male, S*n, and Torygraph.<br /><br />I would laugh, but I will be just as screwed because of fecking brexshitters.<br />Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346534836211090678noreply@blogger.com