tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post4665793599577428540..comments2024-03-26T13:27:26.499+00:00Comments on Zelo Street: Julian Assange - A Nation MournsTim Fentonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00726447899972084146noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-28755721794298850882019-04-11T22:34:10.601+01:002019-04-11T22:34:10.601+01:00Damn, Tim, I thought you were one of the good ones...Damn, Tim, I thought you were one of the good ones, the way you covered the press and the Murdoch hacking.<br /><br />I don't care about agreement, or any purity test, but I do need critical faculties, and ideally, evidence.<br /><br />I really beg you to please re-consider, if you're supported by history and evidence, that's fine.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12172947925235293925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-28768638088993262122019-04-11T19:29:52.884+01:002019-04-11T19:29:52.884+01:00I don't usually comment on anything, and I res...I don't usually comment on anything, and I respect and enjoy your normal posts, however on this point I must respectfully state I believe you have called this one wrong.<br /><br />Whatever your personal opinion of Assange may be, and however accurate your descriptions of his character may be, they are irrelevant. Assange is being arrested and extradited for revealing evidence of illegal activity by the US government. <br /><br />Accusations of sexual assault seem regularly to be made against whistle-blowers.<br /><br />If the press are not able to expose government wrong-doing, then governments will increasingly act with impunity. And it appears governments do not often act in the best interests of the people they claim to represent, but rather in the interests of the rich and powerful.<br /><br />This is a sad day.<br /><br />Please take the time to research more about the Assange case, and take the writings in the Guardian and other MSM with a large pinch of salt.<br /><br />Thank you.Justin Hunneyballnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-88307061161546244292019-04-11T18:30:26.482+01:002019-04-11T18:30:26.482+01:00Those defending Assange as a journalist need to re...Those defending Assange as a journalist need to read the indictment. It's alleged he actually hacked the website of a government department which is a serious crime. He may well be a whistle blower and journalist but hacking is a crime.<br />Even if only urged Chelsea Manning to hack the website (and it's alleged Manning aided in the hacking)it's still a crime if guilty even if he is a journalist.<br />I haven't a clue whether Assange is guilty or not and feel he has done his penance if he has committed a crime even if it was self imposed.<br />But he clearly is a man who has self deluded himself that he is above all sanction. Perhaps Ecuador is fibbing about Assange's actions in the Embassy but he has a long history of activism while in sanctity which would seem to breach the notion of that sanctity but Assange's personality seems to reek of arrogance that he is above all niceties.<br />He shouldn't be punished for that but he & Wikileak's endless actions have given whistle- blowing a bad name.<br />Why Assange went all partisan and aided trump by releasing Clinton's emails which were guaranteed to damage her and give the world the creature now in the white house reeks of the sort of actions the vile Steve Bannon tactics of destroying everything and to wait and see what arises no matter how many people are damaged in the meantime.<br />Assange's bizarre arrogance is what got him where he is today. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-64025024006994742352019-04-11T18:01:40.489+01:002019-04-11T18:01:40.489+01:00Sorry, but this simply won't do.
I have asked...Sorry, but this simply won't do.<br /><br />I have asked before what your personal animus against Assange is, but without receiving an answer.<br /><br />If you think that he is - as they would put it in New York - a joik, then that is of course your privilege, although I don't suppose you've met him personally any more than I have.<br /><br />This does not, I would submit, entitle you or anyone else to hug themselves smugly at the sight of seeing someone who exposed the gross illegality of the US government and its agents being dragged from a place of safety (after an act of cowardice by the current President of Ecuador - an act which has been roundly condemned by his predecessor) and then placed in prison to face what is likely to be a rubber-stamped extradition process ('rubber-stamped', because the UK government is desperate for allies right now, and the odious Sajid Javid has already been posturing about it), and shipped off to a minimum five-year sentence in the US (and that's even if the US prosecutors can be believed).<br /><br />If this is allowed to stand and to proceed, no journalist (at least, no journalist who takes their job seriously by trying to tell the truth to the public and tell truth to power) anywhere will be safe from the over-reach of the most powerful states on the planet.<br /><br />Your sneering is unbecoming, and your repeating of the snide remarks of an employee of the <i>Guardian</i> is particularly regrettable, seeing as that paper gained huge kudos by publishing the material Wikileaks made available, only to stab them and him in the back when it later suited them.<br /><br />It is unfortunate that, in the name of some personal distaste, you should retail such nonsense (along with the claptrap about Wikileaks colluding with Russia and the Trump campaign, to which the previous commenter refers).<br /><br />On this matter at least, you seem not merely to have jumped the shark, but stuffed and mounted it as well.Nigel Stapleyhttp://www.thejudge.me.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-3583623331917338012019-04-11T16:02:41.953+01:002019-04-11T16:02:41.953+01:00Dissenting views are always welcome in response to...Dissenting views are always welcome in response to posts.<br /><br />Personal abuse and name-calling are not.<br /><br />So the above comment has been passed, despite not agreeing with what was posted. Other comments were not.<br /><br />Tim Fentonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00726447899972084146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-13217316114917947812019-04-11T14:25:13.729+01:002019-04-11T14:25:13.729+01:00Tim, I'm surprised you're joining the MSM&...Tim, I'm surprised you're joining the MSM's misrepresentation and vilification of Assange, in contrast to Ewen MacAskill, Glenn Greenwald, Peter, Geoffrey Robertson and Peter Tatchell, for example.<br /><br />Craig Murray points out that Assange faces extradition to the United States "on charges arising from the Chelsea Manning releases which revealed a huge amount about US war crimes and other illegal acts."<br /><br />He adds "It will be very important to try to focus a hostile media on why it is Julian is actually wanted for extradition. Not for the non-existent collusion with Russia to assist Trump, which is an entirely fake narrative. Not for meetings with Manafort which never happened. Not for the allegations in Sweden which fell apart immediately they were subject to rational scrutiny. And not for any nonsense about whether he hacked the communications in the Embassy or cleaned up the cat litter.<br /><br />This is not going to be an easy task because pretty well all of the Western media is going to want to focus on these false anti-Assange narratives, and they will be determined to give as little attention as possible to the fact he is a publisher facing trial for publishing leaked state documents which revealed state wrongdoing."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com