tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post4536275326063962934..comments2024-03-26T13:27:26.499+00:00Comments on Zelo Street: Assange - Come Out, We Know You’re In ThereTim Fentonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00726447899972084146noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-87863879599754703622018-02-15T12:29:10.343+00:002018-02-15T12:29:10.343+00:00Assange skipped bail. That comes with a legal sanc...Assange skipped bail. That comes with a legal sanction. No one gets to avoid legal sanction when they commit a crime.<br /><br />End of. It is utterly laughable and betrays a lack of legal common sense to suggest that Assange should get away scot free. He skipped bail and as such must face the consequences.<br /><br />All the commenters demanding that he shouldn't seem to think Assange should be above the law. There is legal precedent and if he gets away with skipping bail, everyone else will be able to, leading to anarchy and the ending of bail as we know it, reducing freedoms.<br /><br />This is not a difficult case. I don't care how special Assange and his sycophants believe he is and they are. He broke the law, a law that really isn't difficult in the slightest to follow, and he must face the consequences. He is not above the law, and he is not special.nparkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-4766256226529750592018-02-15T08:47:20.752+00:002018-02-15T08:47:20.752+00:00I normally think you are spot on, Tim, but this wa...I normally think you are spot on, Tim, but this was, in my view a mistake. I am glad the other posters have written at length, but the Craig Murray and Jonathan Cook articles are key. <br /><br />Please note that it has just emerged that the UK Govt pressured Sweden in 2013 NOT TO DROP THE CASE. <br /><br />This is all an attempt to bang Julian A up in Guantanamo for basically revealing things various govts didn't want revealed.Juliannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-68809263357519906572018-02-14T21:31:26.279+00:002018-02-14T21:31:26.279+00:00Tell me,
Does anyone else see a vague facial ress...Tell me,<br /><br />Does anyone else see a vague facial ressemblance between Assange and the Cowardly Lion from <i>The Wizard of Oz</i>?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-62205083624476590292018-02-14T18:45:53.017+00:002018-02-14T18:45:53.017+00:00I am Sorry I still have to disagree with you Tim, ...I am Sorry I still have to disagree with you Tim, I think the point of the Craig Murray article is, that government and the judiciary are interlinked in this case, and although I will except your point that Craig may be wrong about this, I point you to the Jonathan Cook article on the same subject. (link kindly provided by another poster)<br /><br />It may be possible that Jonathan Cook may be wrong as well, but given the mans reputation for veracity, I am willing to believe him.<br /><br />Assange is not concerned with the penalties for jumping bail, however he believes, and I agree with him that he will be sacrificed on the alter of the special relationship<br /><br />The Lauri Love case, is in my opinion "apples and oranges", you are comparing a man who was convinced the U.S.A were hiding information about extra terrestrials, to a man who embarrassed the American government on the world stage<br /><br />A wise man once said "just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they are not out to get you"<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-75601510065602377992018-02-14T16:08:59.402+00:002018-02-14T16:08:59.402+00:00https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2018-02-12/the-...https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2018-02-12/the-uks-hidden-role-in-assanges-detention/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-4135156154630082362018-02-14T15:39:40.632+00:002018-02-14T15:39:40.632+00:00He's another martyr, more interested in his pu...He's another martyr, more interested in his public profile than whatever he claimed to originally motivate him.Andy McDonaldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-5026465591308749402018-02-14T15:36:03.223+00:002018-02-14T15:36:03.223+00:00Tim,
But the penalties for jumping bail ARE onero...Tim,<br /><br />But the penalties for jumping bail ARE onerous if they include extradition to a country notorious for a torture and concentration camp - which it has located on the soil of a sovereign nation it treats with murderous contempt. A country which considers itself "exceptional" and "indispensible". A country which routinely invades and commits murder and genocide, and has done so since its inception. A country which doesn't subject itself to the International Criminal Court. A country which opposes international human rights. A country which is nothing more than a rogue garrison state owned by unaccountable oligarchs. A country which is a tragic international lughing stock.<br /><br />What "justice" could Assange expect at the hands of a rigged neofascist court? "Justice" according to the gospel of Freisler?<br /><br />You missed that bit.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-86864580533104282742018-02-14T15:01:11.140+00:002018-02-14T15:01:11.140+00:00@3
"If you think the present Government isn&...@3<br /><br />"If you think the present Government isn't going to do exactly what America wants". Two things here. One, that confuses Government and the judiciary, and two, we seem to have forgotten the outcome of the Lauri Love case rather quickly.<br /><br />Craig Murray sometimes gets it wrong. Like his idea that Assange should enjoy diplomatic immunity.<br /><br />It might also reward considering what A N Other judge might say on the caae. As @1 has pointed out, the penalties for jumping bail are not onerous when compared to the length of time Assange has been inside the Ecuadorian embassy.<br />Tim Fentonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00726447899972084146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-86693879699381634312018-02-14T14:53:52.594+00:002018-02-14T14:53:52.594+00:00sorry to disagree Tim but I believe Assange is mor...sorry to disagree Tim but I believe Assange is more concerned with being extradited to the good old U.S.A and being locked up for life.<br /><br />If you think the present government isn't going to do exactly what America wants then you are not paying attention<br /><br />Read this by Craig Murray and see if maybe you might be tempted to ask questions about the judge whose statements you hold in esteem and have used for the basis of the article https://www.craigmurray.org.uk<br /><br />I really enjoy your blog Tim and on most cases you will find me standing right beside you, but in this case I think you need to be more paranoid Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-53610991537484473712018-02-14T13:59:48.806+00:002018-02-14T13:59:48.806+00:00Nonsense, Tim. This isn't the "End of sto...Nonsense, Tim. This isn't the "End of story".<br /><br />At present, Assange has been openly threatened by lunatic fascist US politicians with attempted extradition to that paranoid country. Some of them even urged assassination. <br /><br />In those circumstances Assange is perfectly justified in his stance. Arbuthnot of course will interpret the law according to its own one-dimensional absurdity in this instance. But the fact is THE SWEDES HAVE DROPPED THE ORIGINAL CHARGE. In the name of democratic common sense - which Arbuthnot demonstrably lacks for all her legal knowledge - this negates the basis of British legal charges. If Arbuthnot cannot or will not see this then Assange is quite justified in not trusting the system. She could have created the precedent at these proceedings but she failed. Furthermore, the language she used raises serious doubts about her impartiality. Is it really necessary to list the number of British glaring miscarriages of justice to illustrate the point?<br /><br />The other fact is that Wikileaks did civilisation a great service when it exposed evil doings in the USA. This included exposure (amongst many other issues) of US hacking and bugging of supposed allies leaders - a domestic corruption which rightly draws your long term disgust.<br /><br />Also, Assange has also promised to repay lost bail money when this matter is settled. But what Wikileaks and he exposed for democratic analysis is priceless. Which is why he is hated and threatened by political and media establishments on both sides of the Atlantic.<br /><br />By now the penny will have dropped among common sense Britons that the "special relationship" with the USA is nothing but a corrupt collaboration between a gang of North American thugs and its British client state.<br /><br />And that is why Assange is right. Needless to say, the British version (that is, virtually all of them) of media cowards will stay silent or put the boot in. They always hate those they wrong. Do I have to list the examples?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-78202970776709794502018-02-14T12:00:44.635+00:002018-02-14T12:00:44.635+00:00As I understand it, the maximum penalty is three m...As I understand it, the maximum penalty is three months and £5,000 unless the Magistrates refer to the Crown Court. Surely better than his present position. Arnoldnoreply@blogger.com