tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post2852988105048687720..comments2024-03-26T13:27:26.499+00:00Comments on Zelo Street: Guardian Bashing – 1: Heresy CornerTim Fentonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00726447899972084146noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-69433450974061532832012-01-03T15:43:33.005+00:002012-01-03T15:43:33.005+00:00No, I'm noting that Jones is going after a CiF...No, I'm noting that Jones is going after a CiF piece - not part of the Guardian's news or editorial content - while ignoring that the Mail has made a similar (admittedly less upfront) statement on the "news" part of its coverage.<br /><br />As for Hari, the Eye was after him years ago, but only very recently has the blogosphere woken up to it. As for the rest of the press, it's another case of "Dog doesn't eat Dog", which takes us back to hacking.Tim Fentonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00726447899972084146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-9959468919027913252012-01-03T15:37:00.176+00:002012-01-03T15:37:00.176+00:00Should follow my last post with some corrections a...Should follow my last post with some corrections and additions. <br /><br />What you seem to be saying is that Jones is wrong to attack the Guardian when the Daily Mail have made similar allegations about The countdown clock. I'm all for putting the boot into Dacre's rag but doesn't that just infantalise the whole issue? "They did it as well sir!"<br /><br />If we're going to hold the right wing media up to intense scrutiny then we should just as firm with the left wing media, if not more so. If it wasn't for the tabloid hacking scandal, we'd still be suffering for Hari's mistakes.Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-15327061821715584882012-01-03T15:24:45.273+00:002012-01-03T15:24:45.273+00:00Can you really call it hypocrisy when this post is...Can you really call it hypocrisy when this post is just as guilty as what you accuse Heresy Corner of doing?<br /><br />For a start, you admit yourself there is no firm evidence the Sun ran a countdown clock on its website. Penny was using conjecture as fact to support her (totally valid) piece about sexism in the media. Even when they're on "our side", you can't let a journalist off for doing so. Jones concedes he doesn't know about the existence of the countdown clock on The Sun's website but neither do you. Yet in spite of lack of evidence, you seem all too willing to follow the Guardian line here. The only supporting evidence for such a clock on the sun's website in your post is a quote from the Daily Mail alluding to a tabloid. And when you're relying on the Daily Mail to back up your view, you're on a hiding to nothing.<br /><br />So really, I have to wonder who's not showing impartiality on this issue here. Particularly when The Guardian has admitted to getting a few details wrong, most notably who deleted the voicemails. <br /><br />I admire the Guardian greatly for its reportage on the unethical practices of News International. But this blind defense tactic serves no one.Jakehttp://twitter.com/jaykayell_noreply@blogger.com