tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post1255654769826251544..comments2024-03-26T13:27:26.499+00:00Comments on Zelo Street: Muslim Foster Scare EXPOSEDTim Fentonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00726447899972084146noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-2928679753796107692017-08-31T06:51:44.062+01:002017-08-31T06:51:44.062+01:00As suspected, the Times / Mail story was a complet...As suspected, the Times / Mail story was a complete load of old cobblers.<br /><br />Mother of 'Christian' child in Islamic foster row was from Muslim family, court papers show <br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/30/mother-christian-child-islamic-foster-row-muslim-family-court/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw … via @telegraphnews<br /><br /><br />And here the Court Order from Tuesday 29th August which has been allowed to be published so the truth of the case can come out. NB the Times reporter was allowed to attend. Look forward now to an update & correction shall we? <br /><br />https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/case-management-order-lbtw-cd-and-ors-20170830.pdf<br /><br /> <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-51611097134305190352017-08-30T15:38:00.778+01:002017-08-30T15:38:00.778+01:00Keep on believing any old rubbish you read in the ...Keep on believing any old rubbish you read in the papers Anonymous.<br /><br />Believing someone would Foster a child then refuse to speak English around them......WTF?A Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13379711904663323903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-77537422598086506142017-08-30T13:23:09.332+01:002017-08-30T13:23:09.332+01:00@Ann Kelly - there's a world of difference bet...@Ann Kelly - there's a world of difference between being able to 'speak and understand' English, and choosing to speak English in your own home or to your own family.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-21576586591982013952017-08-30T13:00:58.822+01:002017-08-30T13:00:58.822+01:00This is the worst sort of 'story' as the p...This is the worst sort of 'story' as the papers know full well that the accused organisation can in no way dispute what is said, give the full facts or reveal any details of the circumstances of the individual case.<br /><br />It also shows that once again August is a quiet month and making up stories is the only way to fill the pages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-63647443680312172702017-08-30T13:00:38.765+01:002017-08-30T13:00:38.765+01:00We don't know why this particular foster place...We don't know why this particular foster placement was chosen or the reasons for the child to be placed in foster care in the first place. Foster placements can be very difficult as issues to be considered include geographical placement (to be safely away from the risks that led to being fostered) and training that the foster parents have had. Ideally vulnerable children should be placed with a family of the same culture but it really isn't always possible especially at short notice. When a child is at risk, there is no time to recruit foster carers, they need to be moved asap. Many mixed emergency placements work out absolutely fine. I've certainly worked with White families providing good placements for BME children and Black families taking in white children with complex issues. Of course the search should always continue for a cultural match but this means moving the child or vulnerable adult again who may have bonded with their placement. My own Black Grandmother fostered 3 white children of the same family as she was the only one available, away from their original area, had enough rooms, was trained in their specific issues and would prevent them being split up. <br />What's sad is that this could have been a good discussion on fostering and the lack of placements. <br /> hattynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-46641120883153809872017-08-30T12:40:14.129+01:002017-08-30T12:40:14.129+01:00Mr/Ms Anonymous:
It's clear you don't kno...Mr/Ms Anonymous:<br /><br />It's clear you don't know much about fostering. It's been stated this was a temporary placement and not for any length of time. As the other anonymous has said, the grandmother had to be checked out that she will be a safe placement, which she now has and the child has gone to live with her.<br /><br />It is impossible to become a foster carer and not speak English. There is a very through and complex vetting procedure to go through which takes months, if you can't speak or understand English you won't get very far. You also have to agree to respect a child's cultural needs and if a child from another religion comes to the foster carer, their religious needs must be met. A child without religion must not be included in a foster carer's religion unless it has been discussed with the child's social worker. (e.g. attending a wedding, Christmas Day Mass etc.)<br /> <br />A child would never, ever, be left with a foster carer if they are "begging" to be taken away.<br /><br />I was a foster carer (and fostered Muslim children) and can write pages and pages to prove this so called bit of journalism is a load of cobblers but I haven't got all day. I will just end with this: beware the vindictive parent who is furious their child has been taken into care. A Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13379711904663323903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-42216949116520160812017-08-30T12:25:06.022+01:002017-08-30T12:25:06.022+01:00And an update in the Guardian.
https://amp.thegua...And an update in the Guardian.<br /><br />https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/29/london-tower-hamlets-council-questioned-after-placing-christian-girl-with-muslim-foster-carers<br /><br />Quote<br /><br />"A council at the heart of a fostering row in which it was claimed that an English-speaking child was placed with a family whose use of Arabic confused her said that the five-year-old had in fact been placed with an English-speaking family of mixed race.<br /><br />Tower Hamlets council said the placement was a temporary measure and hit out at what it said were errors in the reporting of a highly sensitive fostering case.<br /><br />The Times had published an article on Monday after seeing confidential local authority reports, in which a social services supervisor describes the child sobbing and begging not to be returned to one foster carer because “they don’t speak English”.<br /><br />The reports state that the supervisor heard the girl, who at times was “very distressed”, claiming that the foster carer removed her necklace with a crucifix on it. The paper reported that she was a “white Christian child” who had been placed with two Muslim households in London over the past six months.<br /><br /><br />A spokesperson for Tower Hamlets council said: “While we cannot go into details of a case that would identify a child in foster care, there are inaccuracies in the reporting of it. For example, the child is in fact fostered by an English-speaking family of mixed race in this temporary placement. We would like to give more details but we are legally restricted to do so.”<br /><br />They added: “We have always been working towards the child being looked after by a family member and we continue to do so.”<br /><br />The Times reported in its Wednesday edition that the girl at the centre of the row had been removed from her Muslim foster parents and taken to her grandmother’s home following a hearing at a family court on Tuesday. <br /><br />Reports about the fostering have been seized upon by far-right activists including the former English Defence League leader Tommy Robinson, as well as Britain First and the EDL."<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-54614420964846462332017-08-30T11:46:54.399+01:002017-08-30T11:46:54.399+01:00Spot on Tim. So much of this is hearsay, 'rep...Spot on Tim. So much of this is hearsay, 'reporting' what a 5 year old is supposed to have said. I also read the child was removed from the mother as she wasn't being cared for. Presumably she's been placed with grandmother now as Social Services have checked out that's a safe place.<br /><br />Why would the mother be making carbonara (with bacon) and sending it to the child in a foster place? <br /><br />As we are not party to what was actually discussed in court, we don't know the full story there either. Again, we have second hand accounts. <br /><br />I don't believe the Murdoch press or the Mail is being honest here. I agree, just stirring it. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-18039079326077450202017-08-30T11:43:39.222+01:002017-08-30T11:43:39.222+01:00When did the court case reported today start (I be...When did the court case reported today start (I bet it wasn't *after* Norfolk's piece)? Was that actually how Norfolk found out about the girl? Why was the court case not mentioned in the Times or the Mail?Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-41095913512284192842017-08-30T11:31:10.719+01:002017-08-30T11:31:10.719+01:00'ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE IN HUMILIATING U-TURN.
M...'ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE IN HUMILIATING U-TURN.<br /> Mail Crusade Saves Christian Child from Halal Horror'. A.Robot (Mrs)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-30554027363754869552017-08-30T11:17:18.298+01:002017-08-30T11:17:18.298+01:00Does it matter whether it was a Murdoch or a Rothe...Does it matter whether it was a Murdoch or a Rothermere propaganda clerk? Or any of the broadcast versions?<br /><br />They're all far right lying cunts to a man and woman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-65302728528145407292017-08-30T10:53:36.481+01:002017-08-30T10:53:36.481+01:00Wow Tim your hatred of the Murdoch titles have rea...Wow Tim your hatred of the Murdoch titles have really clouded your views - even the Guardian won't defend this ridiculous decision! <br /><br />We both know there are so many reporting restrictions in place that newspapers have to cover themselves with 'allegedly' <br /><br />Considering the judge's ruling this morning, it's clear the council made an error with this placement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com