tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post4954784493419431482..comments2024-03-26T13:27:26.499+00:00Comments on Zelo Street: Day For Freedom ISN’TTim Fentonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00726447899972084146noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-46445396906119594812018-05-07T17:12:58.974+01:002018-05-07T17:12:58.974+01:00For those who actually want the truth, instead of ...For those who actually want the truth, instead of these biased pseudo-journalistic ramblings, the march for freedom was NOT about far right racism. I mean, for Christ sake, there were gays, jews, muslims, black people, women, and a drag queen even sang on stage ! (she was amazing by the way). You say that freedom of speech isn’t under attack when more than 3000 people every year are taken to court for supposed « hate speech » (like jokes, or posting song lyrics) in the UK, when you yourselves then say that the police should « talk to the organizers » (basically tell them to censure themselves), and when, faced with such an event, all you can say is « racists ! ». <br />What is wrong with saying that there are issues within Islam ? Yes, among peaceful verses, the Coran promotes the killing of infidels, adulterers, gays, apostates, etc., yes, it calls for war against the infidels, and yes, it promotes actual sexism (you know, like saying that women are half the worth of men). And the thing is, it’s mostly true of all the Abrahamic religions ! The difference being that Mohammad was also a war lord and a pedophile (cf. Aisha). But that aside. The problem is that, today, you can’t even say those things — even as an ex- or reformist Muslim ! — without being called « racist », and without fearing judicial punishment. The fact is that in our countries, the rate of FGMs is rising, as is that of child mariages, acid attacks and honour killings — and that’s without taking into account the rape gangs. I have lived in India, and the fact is, that although it’s a lovely country as a whole, it does have some barbaric practices that just aren’t going away (forced abortions if the child is a girl, honour killings, gang rapes, child mariages, etc.) — the problem is not even Islam by itself, it’s a specific culture. If I take my country’s example, France, fifteen years ago, women didn’t wear the veil — it just isn’t in French culture. But recently, through the influence of Saudi Arabia and Qatar in particular (which has been proven, this is not just me saying that), French Muslims are becoming increasingly radical (rejecting any and all criticism, women wearing the veil, and even burqas, praying in the streets, rejecting French culture and secularism, up to terrorism). So yes, there is a problem with Islam. That doesn’t mean that there is a problem with Muslims as a whole. You are the ones who are incapable of making that difference.<br />I’ll just end this by saying that of course there were all manners of people at the march, including far right nationalists and such. Because that was the point — people of all creeds, colours, and opinions coming together to defend a human right (defended by the UDHR, by the way). It wasn’t about a partisan issue, it wasn’t about far right propaganda. If you really cared about truth, you would have actually mentioned those things, instead of only focusing on the aspects that confirmed your pre-existing bias. Yes, people at the march, like myself, want free speech, even when it’s about « hating » others. Because the thing is, a lot of it is criticizing (you know, like when we criticize are religion for its dogmas, and you just say it’s « hate », even though it has nothing to do with the people practicing that faith, or with racism, or with hate), and even if it isn’t (like baseless insults, which we all agree are stupid and meaningless), how are you going to criticize or dispute an idea, or a sentiment (it’s very 1984 of your lot to always want to control speech, thought, and emotions), if you can’t hear it ? And, as one of the speakers mentioned, what are you going to do if a government you disagreed with (let’s say, a far right government) was elected, and then decided to apply those hate speech laws to you ? Do you not see the danger in this ?<br />Lastly, about Ali Dawah, he was prevented from speaking because he had refused to comply with some security measures, didn’t come to briefings, and refused to give out his info.Anna S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-9947111561520068872018-05-07T08:13:32.276+01:002018-05-07T08:13:32.276+01:00Parish notice time.
An abusive comment has been e...Parish notice time.<br /><br />An abusive comment has been excluded.<br /><br />A wide range of views is encouraged, but the line is drawn at name calling and other abuse.<br /><br />As you all were.<br />Tim Fentonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00726447899972084146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-79629309137086759712018-05-07T02:40:35.839+01:002018-05-07T02:40:35.839+01:00Apparently Milo was speaking, find it odd how he e...Apparently Milo was speaking, find it odd how he explains to his black husband how his far right views are compatible with being in a same sex marriage and particularly someone who isn't white....<br />Puzzled of Manchester. Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10517504017510902155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-65248982623260511702018-05-06T16:56:31.486+01:002018-05-06T16:56:31.486+01:00Your opening paragraph is a classic, Tim.
But you...Your opening paragraph is a classic, Tim.<br /><br />But you can guarantee it went whoosh! as it went straight over the heads of those racist morons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com