tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post1933713332517905282..comments2024-03-26T13:27:26.499+00:00Comments on Zelo Street: Toby Young’s Lunch IsolationTim Fentonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00726447899972084146noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-39745370496754609652016-07-31T22:10:08.809+01:002016-07-31T22:10:08.809+01:00Still avoiding the "natural" bit?
And Y...Still avoiding the "natural" bit?<br /><br />And Yes, you are paranoid.<br /><br />Now the "snarling" tripe has disappeared you're on to "pedantic."<br /><br />You know, as in "parsing." <br /><br />But do keep on blowing hard. Some gullible dope might believe you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-61224413635803033852016-07-31T19:47:23.036+01:002016-07-31T19:47:23.036+01:00Paranoid? Srsly?
The rest is a lot of pedantic qu...<br />Paranoid? Srsly?<br /><br />The rest is a lot of pedantic quibbling over terms in lieu of an argument. Yes you disagree, yes you're a blowhard who can pick at definitions but can't actually parse a sentence; I did not at any point directly link social class to ethnicity.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12946413569361879061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-61004206590418384632016-07-31T16:49:45.756+01:002016-07-31T16:49:45.756+01:00"...Snarling is completely what you're do..."...Snarling is completely what you're doing..."<br /><br />Of course it is, since it's disagreeing with your paranoid nonsense.<br /><br />That overcooked adverb "completely" is the giveaway.<br /><br />So is "...natural tory voters...": There's no such thing, anymore than there are "natural labour voters."<br /><br />As for social class, it has sweet FA to do with where you live or what you earn or the colour of your skin or so-called "ethnicity." It's matter of self-identity......Not that it would occur to your one dimensional view of things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-75484554651779827782016-07-31T12:34:29.400+01:002016-07-31T12:34:29.400+01:00Wembley Park is not a middle class area, and the s...<br />Wembley Park is not a middle class area, and the school appears to have a high % ethnic minorities - who are not natural Tory voters. And even if they were, the left hardly have a blemish free record when it comes to buying votes.<br /><br />Snarling is completely what you're doing, you don't actually have an argument to make. The truth is that Tim got this one wrong; Toby Young did not lie, he made an assessment that wasn't based on GCSE results or an OFSTED inspection, because none of those things have happened. It's weak beer, though Zelo Street is generally excellent and one bad story doesn't change that.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12946413569361879061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-14071586515261755492016-07-31T10:57:29.835+01:002016-07-31T10:57:29.835+01:00@Alan Hill 00:51.
Just because someone disagrees ...@Alan Hill 00:51.<br /><br />Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're "fucking snarling." Nor does it make Young any less of a "cunt."<br /><br />Nor does it make you right. Snarling or otherwise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-29116187502036144172016-07-31T10:09:40.774+01:002016-07-31T10:09:40.774+01:00Just shows.....throw in the word "aspirationa...Just shows.....throw in the word "aspirational" and you've found the clitoris of the terrified lower middle class.<br /><br />In a more mechanical analogy, it's like pressing a "start" button on a robot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-68561278123714261872016-07-31T00:51:33.558+01:002016-07-31T00:51:33.558+01:00Well no, it isn't; that this will be beneficia...<br />Well no, it isn't; that this will be beneficial is a hypothesis. If you're going to go to town talking about dreadful spelling and grammar you might want to be a little more careful with your articulation.<br /><br />Birbalsingh states that the students have been achieving by going up 4 KS sub-levels a year against the national average of 2. This can be internally massaged a bit, but to say she's lying is basically to accuse the school of systemic fraud. Admittedly they've only dealt with Year 7 and Year 8 so far, but they appear to have made a good start and snarling doesn't really change that.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12946413569361879061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-44715552486731698692016-07-30T21:40:53.855+01:002016-07-30T21:40:53.855+01:00Free Schools - set up by the Tory Party so that th...Free Schools - set up by the Tory Party so that the state will pay for the offspring of their followers to receive (at other taxpayer's expense!) a "public school" education. Another example of the "capitalist socialism" (take from the many to benefit the few) that we currently live under.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-49420496059446747202016-07-30T21:21:10.081+01:002016-07-30T21:21:10.081+01:00I've worked in an officially excellent school ...<br />I've worked in an officially excellent school and seen similar dreadful spelling & grammar. It's toe-curling yes, but it isn't actually what's important.<br /><br />It's kinda weird for the left to suddenly put that much stock in Ofsted inspections and GCSE results, but if you are prepared to de-anon yourself perhaps we could formulate some kind of gentleperson's wager on their first set of GCSE results?<br /><br />Ultimately, choosing a school (to the extent that one can) is always going to be based on a hypothesis. A school's exam results can fall over a five year period, leadership can change, excellent teachers can leave etc. There's always going to be guesswork involved. But I maintain that a lot of parents would love to be able to send their children to this kind of school, and suspect quite a lot of teachers would jump at the chance to teach, actually teach, at such a school.<br /><br />Birbalsingh is claiming the school's children are progressing at twice the rate of average (4 sub levels a year as opposed to 2). This will be based on termly grades, and although internally marked and probably subject to some pressure, one would be setting oneself up for a large fall if one really wasn't pretty sure it was more or less true. We would have course be finding out quicker if Ed Balls hadn't scrapped external marking of KS3 exams.<br /><br />Just because Toby Young is a cunt doesn't mean we have to fucking snarl at everything he supports.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12946413569361879061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-70918956185193958302016-07-30T18:32:31.670+01:002016-07-30T18:32:31.670+01:00@Alan Hill the "disciplined, aspirational env...@Alan Hill the "disciplined, aspirational environment" is only hypothesised as you say. The dreadful spelling & grammar, and the appalling behaviour is actual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-40543302330974786682016-07-30T17:35:32.738+01:002016-07-30T17:35:32.738+01:00Because they hypothesise the disciplined, aspirati...Because they hypothesise the disciplined, aspirational environment will be good for their children?Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12946413569361879061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-30657781264224910352016-07-30T16:02:35.505+01:002016-07-30T16:02:35.505+01:00Why would anyone 'love to send their kids to a...Why would anyone 'love to send their kids to a school like Michaela' when - as Fenton points out - it's an unknown quantity at this time?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-10466293907179564812016-07-30T15:34:46.414+01:002016-07-30T15:34:46.414+01:00I don't feel comfortable being on the side of ...I don't feel comfortable being on the side of the Spodey Today, but a lot of parents would love to be able to send their kids to a school like Michaela. I do not agree with the policy, but babies and bathwater y'know?Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12946413569361879061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-90337338673292560152016-07-30T14:53:51.093+01:002016-07-30T14:53:51.093+01:00Schools run by ideologues. Imagine allowing your c...Schools run by ideologues. Imagine allowing your child to become a political pawn.Robinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-78394807624248784542016-07-30T14:52:01.459+01:002016-07-30T14:52:01.459+01:00"...McTernan...best of British..."
Poor..."...McTernan...best of British..."<br /><br />Poor old Toby Jug, trying to polish a turd.<br /><br />As usual.<br /><br />You can always rely on the Jug for unintentional comedy. Which often is the best type.<br /><br />Funny, but McTernan's home country has decided it wants no part of that "...best of British..." - I guess the two-bit fraud got found out, and not just by Labour Party members.<br /><br />Oh how we larfed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-23740176995631602892016-07-30T14:46:48.408+01:002016-07-30T14:46:48.408+01:00Other than popping up on television newspaper revi...Other than popping up on television newspaper reviews claiming "black is white" and writing nonsense on Twitter, what does this Bellend actually DO for a living? <br />Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433144336299288135.post-36658580406797606112016-07-30T14:07:21.023+01:002016-07-30T14:07:21.023+01:00Bullying by a headteacher - setting a great exampl...Bullying by a headteacher - setting a great example for the students. I note that the parent concerned has withdrawn their child from the school. I'm not surprised.<br />Havng worked for a great headteacher, I know this is not the right way to deal with children however difficult their circumstances.<br />Sadly, the egos of this head and Mr Young won't allow them to admit their mistakes.Shawlratnoreply@blogger.com